Security or Surveillance?

Julian Assange (live-streamed), Phil Giraldi, Gregory Copley, and Ray devote an hour to Security or Surveillance: Privacy vs. Anti-Terror Security in the Digital Age at RT observance of its 10th anniversary at Metropol Hotel in Moscow, Dec. 10. Thom Hartmann moderated. (The segment containing Ray’s most relevant remarks is found between minutes 21:00 and 24:35.)