​Ray uses fresh opportunity on brief video interview to:

1-Comment on the (in)effectiveness of bulk surveillance, quoting Ed Snowden: “If you collect everything, you understand nothing;” ​

2-Ape retired East German Stasi Col. Wolfgang Schmidt on why “they” collect everything anyway.

Ray found a quiet corner in a McDonalds in Hagerstown, MD, Friday on his way south from arrest/jail/bail with the Hancock 12 on Jan. 28; he persuaded McDonalds staff to turn off the music; but it was dinner time, so the background noise is from fellow-diners.