Take a break from Christmas shopping.  Find your earplugs and listen to Ray talking to Dave Lindorff of This Can’t Be Happening in a relaxed, sometimes humorous (in a black-comedy kind of way) conversation for the better part of an hour.  BUT, unless you are new to raymcgovern.com , you may find much of the first half familiar.  For frequent visitors to the website, there is some interesting new discussion – about the significance of the ABM Treaty scuttled by Bush and Cheney – during the second half of the interview.  We break down the interview into a few discrete time-segments below.



Those tired of hearing Ray on the spurious charges of “Russian hacking,” can fast forward to minute 25:00 when the discussion turns to central Europe and the fallout from the coup in Ukraine.  At minute 35:00 the discussion focuses more on strategic matters – particularly the destabilizing result of George W. Bush’s pulling the U.S. out of the Antiballistic Missile Treaty, which had been the key stabilizing factor in the strategic equation.  Ray traces that issue back to its beginning in May 1972.  It was analysts working for Ray in CIA’s Soviet Foreign Policy Branch, and military analysts in other branches, who were able to assure Nixon that CIA could verify if he could trust, so to speak. Ray was there in Moscow when President Richard Nixon came and signed the historic ABM Treaty.

Brad Friedman of KPFK/Pacifica radio asked Ray to discuss the significance of President-elect Donald Trump’s reluctance to speak with appropriate reverence and awe about the President’s Daily Brief.  Ray explains his own two-stage reaction to Trump’s remarks; Ray’s comment may surprise you.  He also explains the relative importance of the PDB and NIEs (National Intelligence Estimates) and the roles each play in the intelligence cycle.


December 21, 2016 (33 minutes – from minute 19:15 to 52:00)

Think about it: If you were President-elect Trump, would you submit yourself daily to briefers working for “honorable men” like CIA Director John Brennan, who has gotten malleable media and perfunctory pundits to promote the canard that Trump owes his election victory to Russian hackers?  Brad also asks Ray why he is so sure that the line that Brennan’s anonymous minions are promoting is “a crock.”  (There is a lot more on that in the interviews and articles that follow on raymcgovern.com.)

Ray on the CIA-led media blitz and McCarthy-type lists

The late Michael Ratner’s colleague attorneys who host the radio talk show Law and Disorder, Heidi Boghosian and Michael Steven Smith, interview Ray Dec. 14 regarding the CIA-led media blitz in Washington to show not only that Trump owes his victory to Vladimir Putin, but that the Trump and his supporters should be put on a McCarthy-type list before they sell us out to the Communists — oops, I mean the Russians.  Ray notes the considerable discomfort with Trump felt by those whom Pope Francis called (speaking before Congress, no less) the “blood-soaked arms traders” – as well as by politicians who get their cut from the profiteering on tension and war.

Ray’s is the first segment; it runs for 20 minutes.


Full Law and Disorder website:

Law and Disorder December 19, 2016




BREAKTHROUGH on TV; CIA and Media Push Preemptive Putsch

Mark Maxwell of Independent TV Station WHDT* gave Ray enough time Thursday to expose the public push for something entirely new in U.S. history; a concerted Establishment campaign to effect a “pre-emptive coup” to deny the presidency to Donald Trump.  A link to the YouTube version follows:


NSA Holds Key To Russian Hacking Allegations

Interview with Ex-CIA Analyst Ray McGovern


December 15, 2016 (18 minutes)


Look for the denouement at the Sunday talk shows tomorrow.  It is likely that, after watching the pundits, members of the Electoral College not already confused will be by Sunday evening.  And so … 





Ray has done a number of interviews on this subject, and – MORE IMPORTANT – VIPS has published an authoritative technical assessment of how unlikely it is that WikiLeaks revelations came from the Russians without NSA being able to trace sender and recipient.  (All can be found here on raymcgovern.com, but here is a link to the most important one, from a technical perspective.)

U.S. Intelligence Vets Dispute Claims of Russian Hacking

Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS)

December 12, 2016



US Intel Vets Dispute Russia Hacking Claims


In just two days (Dec. 19), the Electoral College will certify the results of the presidential election.  There can – and should – be honest debate on the relative merits of encouraging delegates now pledged to vote for Trump to flip their vote, or simply not to vote.  However, it would be unpresidented – oops, I mean unprecedented – were this to be the result of CIA “intelligence” every bit as fraudulent as evidence on Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) that was fabricated by Ray’s former colleagues to help George W. Bush and Dick Cheney “justify” the attack on Iraq.


Needless to say, this is serious.  Members of the Electoral College who meet Monday in state capitols have been subjected to an unparalleled media blitz blaming Russian President Vladimir Putin – without a trace of persuasive evidence – for interfering in the election so as to ensure a Trump victory.  This is WMD-type BS.  But recent history shows that many Americans find it hard to do critical thinking in the midst of a blizzard of snow-jobs – the more so when the media winds from New York and Washington blow the same wet snow sticking to them from all directions.  The danger is that those Electoral College delegates, who get their “news” and commentary from TV stations and cable news outlets, will be persuaded that it is their patriotic duty to un-elect someone that “everybody knows” was elected only because the Russians helped with their dirty tricks.**


The heavies in the Washington Establishment (including Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, and CIA chief John Brennan) have strong incentive to keep Trump out.  They have pulled out all the stops, using the corporate media to “show” that Hillary Clinton would have won absent a heavy Russian thumb on the scale.  The media have seldom been more effective implementing President George W. Bush’s dictum to “catapult the propaganda.”  Amidst all this, Ray and his VIPS colleagues have done everything they could to expose what is going on (see other postings on raymcgovern.com).


So, again, if there is some way to get this out into the open, beyond alternative media, PLEASE DO!


*About WHDT (channel 9): It is the oldest high definition television station in the United States. Broadcasting from Wellington, Florida, WHDT serves the Miami-Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach-Fort Pierce, and Naples-Fort Myers, Florida television markets.  Covering eight counties in South Florida, WHDT has a larger reach than any television station in the state.


It is one of the largest independently owned TV stations in the world.  WHDT also broadcasts from Boston, the 9th largest market in the country, in addition to a 24/7 livestream on the Razercut app available on iTunes around the world.




**Ray voted for and publicly endorsed Jill Stein.  His endorsement and his reasoning can be found by searching here at raymcgovern.com.

On “Crosstalk” Phil Giraldi, James Jatras, and Ray discuss the canard about Putin hacking till all hours (probably shirtless) to tip the U.S. election in favor of Donald Trump.


Dec. 16, 2016 (24 min, if you skip the ads between minute 12:05 to 1415)

Ray takes opportunity to confirm UK Ambassador Craig Murray’s presence at American University at the time Murray said he made contact with a leaker representative.