Ray interviewed by Whistleblower Newsroom for the kind of back and forth you may experience around the holiday dinner table.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJmghmb6tcE
Dec. 13, 2019 (from minute 3:20 to 58:20)
Ray learned later that Attorney General Barr had addressed several of the same issues in an interview with NBC the day after Horowitz’s Senate testimony.
If you only have time to tune in to one of the interviews, go with Barr.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRKFo0JmuBc