(22 minutes)
Ray interviewed on Zelikow memo on torture; rendition; role of senior CIA official John Brennan (speaker at Fordham commencement, May 19); and description of the Speaking Truth to Power function of Tell the Word, an outreach of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington.
http://archive.org/details/RayMcgovernOnSuppressedDissentingTortureMemoByZelikowCounselToCondi