http://www.1tv.ru/news/issue/2016-09-25/21:00#5
(from minute 2:00 to 2:22; can hear Ray’s words beneath the Russian voice-over)
The full segment, in Russian, runs 9 minutes.
Channel One picked those 22 seconds out of a 20-minute interview on Sept. 22 as the only part to air. Earlier, Ray had to parry “don’t-you-really-think?-type” questions pointing toward one or another conspiracy. The brief clip shows Ray suggesting that so many thousands of U.S. “organs of state security” are distracted by electronic surveillance that “old fashioned,” yet tried and tested, detective techniques have been put in storage in favor of the new toys that, in Ed Snowden’s words, enable intelligence and law enforcement “to collect everything and understand nothing.