http://www.wmpg.org/archivefiles/bigtalk.htm (26 min.)
Topics include: Should Truman’s Baby (the CIA) be Thrown Out With the (covert action) Bathwater He Never Intended; Was it Ray or the agency that got thrown off its horse/course on the Road to Damascus (oops, meant Baghdad)?; The Saving Grace – CIA Analysts’ Role in Stopping War on Iran Planned for 2008 (read, for example, George W. Bush’s lament about this in a part of his memoir that he must have written himself); WikiLeaks and Julian Assange; the Phoenix-like rise of a “Fifth Estate” from the ashes of the Fourth.
Ray notes that it was quite refreshing to be beyond the Capital Beltway where folks can’t seem to pull themselves out of the quicksand of faux-issues like Benghazi.