Going Underground’s Afshin Rattansi questions Ray for 11 minutes on CIA black sites and torture generally.  “In fairness to Gina Haspel,” you will not hear a word of this in “mainstream media” on the west side of the Atlantic.

June 11, 2018.  Ray’s segment goes from minute 3:47 to 14:40.
At the end, Ray speaks to what animates him: “If you can’t take a stand against torture ….”  The introduction, beginning at minute 1:00, describing the draconian measures favored by UK Home Secretary Sajid Javid, is also worth watching.