Videographer/teacher Joe McGovern (Ray’s son and Webmeister) was interviewed on July 9, 2018 by Sean Stone on “Watching the Hawks” about Joe’s documentary The Other Side: a liberal democrat explores conservative America.

https://youtu.be/ybAtYz8aF_I

(min. 14:55 – 26:20)

Joe’s film is at: theothersidedocumentary.com