Included (betw. min. 7:25 and 9:50) is a telling vignette from their last personal meeting
https://sputniknews.com/radio_ the_critical_hour/ 201812041070362787-george- bush-analysis-america- president/
The first three minutes of flowery intro. can be skipped.
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The first three minutes of flowery intro. can be skipped.